Tasting: Dai Tajín

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Dai Tajín is my first barrel-aged saison. As I mention when brewing, I struggled with what else to put in that Rum barrel and thought the saison would be a good bet. Early on, it tasted great, rum and saison perfectly balanced. Life got in the way and well, it spent a lot longer in the barrel than I had anticipated. At bottling, I just wasn’t sure if it was going to work out. I never picked up any real Rum flavors. This beer was bottled on Jan 30th, 2014, so we’re not even 4 weeks out in the bottle and the great news is that it’s perfectly carbed. This was something I’ve struggled with for the last 3 beers that have aged in barrels. This time I used The Mad Fermentationalist barrel-aged beer priming spreadsheet and it turned out to be just what I needed to get priming just right. Now, what about the beer?

Appearance: Amber to orange color, slight cloudiness. Solid foamy head which settles down into a thin, but persistent creamy head.

Smell: Tart fruits, slight funk (Bretty? won’t be the first time I’ve infected a batch in a good way accidentally), oaky, earthy.  The tart, funk and oaky spirits really reminds me of Jester King Boxer’s Revenge.

Taste: Spicy, oaky, slight booze, long tannins and it ends dry. Slight carb bite, prickly. Very saison-like though the boozy nature makes it stand out from a typical saison.

Mouthfeel: Medium mouthfeel.  Solid to high carbonation, but not past where I would like it.  Tingly on the tongue but not distracting from the thicker smoothness.

Drinkability & Notes: I must say that I’m quite impressed with this beer given it was not something I’ve seen brewed before. I’m in love with the great nose and flavor, mostly because it reminds me of one of my favorite Jester King beers.  While it’s not sour itself, it just begs to be innoculated.  Next batch of Dai Tajín will be aged in-barrel with Jester King mixed culture.

Slow and Low

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Racking 5 gallons of Big Daddy Barleywine from a Balcones Blue Corn Whiskey barrel.

This week at Woxford, we’re bottling 15 gallons of barrel-aged beer. A barleywine which spent nearly 4 months in a Balcones Blue-corn whiskey barrel will fill about 26 750mL bottles. The second barrel, an 11 gallon Rum barrel filled with Makkurokurosuke RIS will be transferred into approximately fifty 750mL bottles. The replacements have been brewed and fermented at this point; now just to swap contents and wait a bit more.

You may have noticed it’s been about a month since the last brew session. That may be more typical as the home schedule is filling up. That got me thinking about what sort of beers and ingredients I wanted to focus on given that the frequency of brewing is going to slow down. Recently we’ve been testing out new yeasts and blends and I want to see about doing a bit more of that, but with a single yeast blend. This blend includes saison Saccharomyces, some brett, and quite a bit of souring bacteria. The fun part is learning how to use both to get the beer to be just right. The tools are fairly simple: hops, temperature and time.

Larger amounts of hops will inhibit the growth of the souring bacteria. Higher temps will favor Saccharomyces, even though lactobacillus can handle and prefers high temp, sacc will out-compete and dominate. Lower temperatures, while not the best for souring bacteria, will favor a more sour beer due to the sluggishness of Saccharomyces at lower temps.

This is the hypothesis, with quite a bit of anecdotal material (in the form of really good beer) to back those assertions. But, the proof, as they say, is in the pudding. $240 worth of pudding.

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Drinking Jester King’s Le Petit Prince, 2.8% Farmhouse Table beer. Excellent working beer. Look at all of those 750mL bottles.

This recipe will be the second farmhouse sour recipe. The first resulted in solid, but not sour saison. The Farmhouse Saison Experiement still need a proper review, but the result was a bit one dimensional despite using four different strains of Brett. The effort did help confirm that one cannot kettle sour a beer in an aluminum pot beyond about 3.8 pH. Bizarre!

For this recipe, I’ll split the wort post-boil and run two different fermentation schedules. The first, will be held between 55F and 60F to simulate a brew in the winter time (Texas) where the average temperature is lower. The hypothesis suggests this should produce a more sour final product. The second half will use a more typical saison schedule, starting around 65F, holding for 24 or 48 hours and then ramping up (and/or letting free-rise) until fermentation is complete.

The final products will be compared and contrasted. I may end up blending them in the end as well. In any case, this should be pretty exciting.  Note the recipe says Wyeast 3711 for yeast, that’s the closest to Jester King Dregs, but it’s not the same (and certainly doesn’t contain the souring bus).

Recipe Details

Batch Size Boil Time IBU SRM Est. OG Est. FG ABV
12 gal 90 min 19.7 IBUs 3.5 SRM 1.052 SG 1.007 SG 6.0 %

Style Details

Name Cat. OG Range FG Range IBU SRM Carb ABV
Saison 16 C 1.048 - 1.065 1.002 - 1.012 20 - 35 5 - 14 2.3 - 2.9 5 - 7 %

Fermentables

Name Amount %
Pilsen (BestMälz) 14 lbs 59.57
Wheat Malt, Ger 9.5 lbs 40.43

Hops

Name Amount Time Use Form Alpha %
Magnum 0.18 oz 90 min Boil Pellet 12
Goldings, East Kent (2011 Crop - Purchase FHBW 20130220) 1.94 oz 30 min Boil Pellet 5.6
Willamette 1.94 oz 5 min Boil Pellet 4.3
Crystal 1.94 oz 1 min Boil Pellet 3
Citra 2 oz 3 days Dry Hop Pellet 14.4
Styrian Goldings 2 oz 3 days Dry Hop Pellet 3

Yeast

Name Lab Attenuation Temperature
French Saison (3711) Wyeast Labs 80% 65°F - 77°F

Notes

Split into two 6G containers

1. Hold at 57F
2. Pitch at 65F, and ramp up to 80F over 7 days

Blend batches later.

Rum Barrel Saison

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Steppiing up generation 2 of Gigayeast Saison II from gen1 yeast cake with hops.

It’s time that I brewed a second beer to put into the clean Rum Barrel I picked up at the beginning of the year. It currently has v5 of Makkurokurosuke RIS. I’m extremely excited for this one. All of the barrel-aged RIS have been phenomenal, this one won’t be anything less. Before I can rack the RIS I need to have a replacement beer brewed to minimize the amount of time that the barrel remains empty. In the previous barrel, I cleaned it out and filled it with vodka. While that worked out just fine I don’t want to waste any time since I need to get a 3rd beer in and out before this Winter when I’ll brew a second batch of Woxbic, the Woxford lambic-style beer.

I struggled with what exactly to put into a 11 gallon Rum barrel. Previously I’ve brewed a Strong Scotch and a Robust Porter for whiskey barrel. I’ve also put a barleywine and shortly a Belgian Quad, so I was looking for something a bit different. I started thinking about what flavors go well with Rum and several mixed drinks came to mind. I’m not much of a liquor drinker, but when I did dabble, I really enjoyed Rum and Coke and Rum with Orange Juice; a screwdriver if Google is to be believed. I really liked the idea of mixing fruity hops with rum and then a solid dry beer finish. It also helped that I had a large slurry of Gigayeast Saison II from my last saison.

This will be the same grain bill (but bigger) as for Tajín, but with a few choice hop replacements to really focus on citrus, fruit and spice. I used Summer in previous which came out really nice. I swapped Fuggle for Willamette as I was out and still wanted some earthy, spice. Meridian is fruit gold so I wanted some of that. Galaxy is another really fruity flavor. Finally, some Apollo for that orange, tangerine citrus.

This should ferment out cleaning in less than a month after which I’ll rack and bottle the RIS and add this beer into the rum barrel for a month or so. It’s a lighter beer which means it won’t take as much contact time to pull in the rum flavors.

Enjoy Dai Tajín!

Recipe Details

Batch Size Boil Time IBU SRM Est. OG Est. FG ABV
12 gal 90 min 39.2 IBUs 7.4 SRM 1.059 1.006 7.0 %
Actuals 1.054 1.01 5.8 %

Style Details

Name Cat. OG Range FG Range IBU SRM Carb ABV
Saison 16 C 1.048 - 1.065 1.002 - 1.012 20 - 35 5 - 14 2.3 - 2.9 5 - 7 %

Fermentables

Name Amount %
Pilsner (2 Row) Bel 21 lbs 71.19
Rye Malt 3.25 lbs 11.02
White Wheat Malt 2.25 lbs 7.63
Caramunich Malt 1 lbs 3.39
Oats, Flaked 1 lbs 3.39
Turbinado 1 lbs 3.39

Hops

Name Amount Time Use Form Alpha %
Summer (Summer Saaz) 1 oz 90 min First Wort Pellet 5.5
Willamette 1 oz 90 min First Wort Pellet 4.3
Meridian 1 oz 30 min Boil Pellet 6.5
Apollo 0.5 oz 15 min Boil Pellet 18
Galaxy 1 oz 5 min Boil Pellet 14.8
Summer (Summer Saaz) 1 oz 5 min Boil Pellet 5.5

Miscs

Name Amount Time Use Type
Calcium Chloride 4.40 g 60 min Mash Water Agent
Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) 4.10 g 60 min Mash Water Agent
Epsom Salt (MgSO4) 0.90 g 60 min Mash Water Agent
Ground Pepper 3.27 tsp 5 min Boil Spice

Yeast

Name Lab Attenuation Temperature
Saison Yeast #2 (GY027) Gigayeast 81% 64°F - 80°F

Mash

Step Temperature Time
Saccharification 148°F 75 min
Mash Out 168°F 10 min

Trying out Gigayeast and some new hops

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Gold Pitch pouch of >200 Billion yeast, Saison #2 strain.

There are a number of new yeast companies just starting up and I’m really excited to see these new strains being picked up. Gigayeast, Yeast Bay, and East Coast Yeast, which I’ve written about before, are finding, isolating and stepping up strains found in great commercial beers and making them available to homebrewers. Some of this comes from the big yeast companies (White Labs, and Wyeast for homebrew) selling their services. The Gold Pitch from Gigayeast sure looks like a Wyeast yeast pouch, and the Yeast Bay vials sure look like a White Labs tube.

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Yeast Bay vials via Ales of the Riverwards Blog.

The Saison #2 strain caught my attention, mostly due to the description of having a tart finish. It’s no secret that I have a passion for sour beers, and while I know this yeast won’t produce a sour beer without some bacteria like lactobacillus, I am interested in getting tart beers as well. There are a number of really great saisons that taste tart but aren’t sours. I plan to find out if I can get that same effect with this yeast.

Gigayeast describes the flavors as fruity and spicy, so when choosing the recipe I started with my house saison, and dropped the gravity a bit so the pouch could be used without a starter and then switched in some spicy and fruity hops. I’m getting to try out a new (to me) hop, Summer Saaz, which is both spicy and with a touch of fruit when used for aroma and dry-hopping. Another hop favorite, Meridian, which was used in an amazing Sour Pale Ale (Dr. Vainglory at Black Star Coop), which has lots of fruity, punch-like flavors. And some traditional english Fuggle for that nice earthy spice. I also didn’t want to change the recipe up too much to help detect the differences between how Rekkae is normally brewed and what the new ingredients are bringing to the familiar beer.

Take a look:

Recipe Details

Batch Size Boil Time IBU SRM Est. OG Est. FG ABV
6 gal 60 min 37.4 IBUs 6.7 SRM 1.058 1.006 6.9 %
Actuals 1.054 1.01 5.8 %

Style Details

Name Cat. OG Range FG Range IBU SRM Carb ABV
Saison 16 C 1.048 - 1.065 1.002 - 1.012 20 - 35 5 - 14 2.3 - 2.9 5 - 7 %

Fermentables

Name Amount %
Pilsner (2 Row) Bel 9.5 lbs 70.37
Rye Malt 1.5 lbs 11.11
White Wheat Malt 1 lbs 7.41
Caramunich Malt 8 oz 3.7
Oats, Flaked 8 oz 3.7
Sugar, Table (Sucrose) 8 oz 3.7

Hops

Name Amount Time Use Form Alpha %
Fuggles 0.49 oz 60 min First Wort Pellet 5.7
Summer (Summer Saaz) 0.49 oz 60 min First Wort Pellet 5.5
Meridian 0.49 oz 30 min Boil Pellet 6.5
Tettnang 1 oz 15 min Boil Pellet 4.6
Summer (Summer Saaz) 1 oz 5 min Boil Pellet 5.5

Miscs

Name Amount Time Use Type
Calcium Chloride 3.20 g 60 min Mash Water Agent
Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) 3.20 g 60 min Mash Water Agent
Epsom Salt (MgSO4) 0.40 g 60 min Mash Water Agent
Ground Pepper 1.64 tsp 5 min Boil Spice

Yeast

Name Lab Attenuation Temperature
Saison Yeast #2 (GY027) Gigayeast 81% 64°F - 80°F

Mash

Step Temperature Time
Saccharification 148°F 75 min
Mash Out 168°F 10 min

Notes


Multiple Yeasts in Primary

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2 liter starter of Wyeast 3724 Dupont Saison yeast. Even on a stirplate, it is a slow fermenter.

Brew plans come and go. By this time I was supposed to already have brewed up 11 gallons of my favorite Russian Imperial Stout so I could fill up a new barrel that had previously held rum.  Unfortunate issues surrounding a local bulkbuy have delayed the scheduled brewday.  So last brew session I did a Big Barleywine, destined for the 5 gallon whiskey barrel.  The shipment is going to be late by only one day; but since I brew on Friday nights, well, it’s time for something else.

I’m on my 4th revision of my house saison.  Even from version 1, it’s been a huge hit.  Amazingly tasty, just enough spice and light funk, reasonably hoppy, bright citrus.  We’ve played with adding Orange Blossom honey, adding in some rye.  And of course switching yeasts.  The original recipe used Wyeast 3711 Saison, a beast of a yeast and then I switched to 3724.  That learning experience is one of the most visited pages on this blog.  What I have left to do is actually blend the two together.

I much prefer the flavor profile of 3724; it just has more depth and character than just 3711.  But if you’ve read my post or just about anywhere else, the Dupont yeast can be fickle without a lot of patience, aeration and heat.  This time however, the plan is to pitch a big starter of 3724 and let that work on the beer for approximately 7 days, or till whenever it stalls.  At that point, I’ll pitch 3711 to clean up and finish.  This should shorten the fermentation cycle quite a bit but by using 3724 first, the bulk of the flavors will come from the Dupont strain.

I’ve read else where this is a common tactic.  In some cases brewers will blend up front, say, 3 to 1, Dupont (3724) to Theriez (3711) in the initial pitch.  That may also work, but I don’t want to skip a starter.  I’d be worried that the ratios in the starter if blended wouldn’t match up.

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Blacklands Malt — Local Craft Malthouse in Leander, TX

In addition to blending the yeast I’ll also be using a new pilsner.  Locally malted up at Blacklands Malt, I’m using their White Horn pilsner.  I enjoy using local ingredients.  The 2-row Pale Moon has been a great grain to work with and I have high hopes for the pilsner as well.  After all of the trouble with the bulk buy; if I didn’t also need sacks of Marris Otter, I’d get all of my base grains from Blacklands exclusively.

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White Horn Pilsner from Blacklands Malt

This batch of Rekkae has been scaled up to 12 gallons.  I plan to use six of the 12 to blend with a few sour saisons that I’m aging.  My Farmhouse Saison experiement didn’t end up souring at all.  I’m almost 100% sure that was because I had too many IBUs when I pitched the lacto.  Blending with a known sour will certainly let me get just the right flavor profile I’m looking for.

 

Here’s version 4 of Rekkae.

Recipe Details

Batch Size Boil Time IBU SRM Est. OG Est. FG ABV
12 gal 90 min 36.9 IBUs 7.0 SRM 1.060 1.012 6.3 %
Actuals 1.054 1.01 5.8 %

Style Details

Name Cat. OG Range FG Range IBU SRM Carb ABV
Saison 16 C 1.048 - 1.065 1.002 - 1.012 20 - 35 5 - 14 2.3 - 2.9 5 - 7 %

Fermentables

Name Amount %
Pilsner (2 Row) Bel 20.803 lbs 73.35
White Wheat Malt 3.258 lbs 11.49
Rye Malt 2.132 lbs 7.52
Oats, Flaked 1.128 lbs 3.98
Caramunich Malt 1.042 lbs 3.68

Hops

Name Amount Time Use Form Alpha %
Fuggles 0.74 oz 60 min First Wort Pellet 5.3
Sorachi Ace 0.74 oz 60 min First Wort Pellet 12
Fuggles 0.74 oz 30 min Boil Pellet 5.3
Fuggles 1.85 oz 15 min Boil Pellet 5.3

Miscs

Name Amount Time Use Type
Calcium Chloride 9.00 g 60 min Mash Water Agent
Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) 9.00 g 60 min Mash Water Agent
Epsom Salt (MgSO4) 1.20 g 60 min Mash Water Agent
Ground Pepper 3.27 tsp 5 min Boil Spice

Yeast

Name Lab Attenuation Temperature
Belgian Saison (3724) Wyeast Labs 78% 70°F - 95°F
French Saison (3711) Wyeast Labs 80% 65°F - 77°F

Mash

Step Temperature Time
Protein Rest 122°F 30 min
Saccharification 152°F 45 min
Mash Out 168°F 10 min

Notes

Water profile via Brun Water, says 5.5 target pH.